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Secret Trial behind close doors

"Sercret Trial" behind close doors 

BJPC being both Judge and Jury

Earlier this year the Parish Council adopted a Habitual or Vexatious Complainants Policy. This policy was introduced to limit the number of requests made under the Freedom of Information Act, Data Protection Act and the complaints procedure ( ref- 1.3 of the policy) to a level manageable to the parish council. The Council also said that the number of hours the clerk would be able to spend on Freedom of Information requests would be limited to two hours a month.

In my role as a resident and Administrator of BJOnline Admin I can categorically state   

 

I have made one request under the Freedom of Information Act. (requesting sight of the recent resignation letters of 3 BJP Councillors)

I have not made any requests under the Data Protection Act.

I have not referred any matters to the complaints procedure.

 

However I have now been served with a notice under this policy following a secret trial held by the Council without my knowledge last week. Under this notice, the Parish Council has listed me in their Black Book and tells me that it will refuse to respond to any further correspondence with me

 

In their letter serving this notice, there is no reference to the number of requests for information or complaints I have made. Instead the letter refers to entries on my website with which the Parish Council disagrees. It is using the H and V Policy to bully and intimidate me, not because of the number of requests for information I have made but because it does not like what I say online. I will continue with my online posting style, for I genuinely want to see the "open and transparent society" for the community in which we live

 

Finally my comments on my website are based on direct observation and evidence, checked at source and collaborated wherever possible. I continually invite the parish council to put their views on various issues on BJOnline but the offers are not taken up. However the opportunity for them will always continue to be available as I am only interested in informing and involving the community, getting at the truth and improving things in BJ.

I will repeat once again- if any of my postings are found to be incorrect I will immediately recant and apologise online

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B J Flood Defences

 Copy of a posting by the "Burton Joyce Blogger"

Monday, 2 November 2009

BJ Flood Defences

Thanks are due to the Residents Association

We see that BJRA has been working on serious issues for the village, working on ensuring that new funds would be allocated for the flood embankment and keeping everyone informed everyone informed while the Parish Council is fiddling around ie..

"We are very pleased to be able to report that the Regional Flood Defence Committee has now allocated £490,000 for the Burton Joyce Flood Embankment and the Environment Agency aims to commence construction in Spring 2010.- "

The Community at large will no doubt be pleased and appreciative of the BJRA working on serious issues for the village, working on ensuring that new funds would be allocated for the flood embankment and keeping everyone informed everyone informed, while the BJ Parish Council appear to be fiddling around.

Fiddling around and revisiting issues already investigated , reported on, discussed and approved by the full BJ Parish Council some 12 monthst ago - i e the Grove remodelling.

The original "Grove report" and application proved successful in obtaining the £15,000 granted

Why is there a need to "tinker" ? - "If it aint broke - Dont fix it"
 

BJ Blogger

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Wind Turbine - the truth

Wind Turbines -The Truth! - will the alternative really hurt ? - Yes certainly!

  

 The above image is a visual posted on the BJPC website. Is this a representative image of what we will see locally ? Of course not !  How many of us will be looking down from this height.?  Why not include within the visual the entire Burton Joyce village and some realistic visuals from ground level ?- The result will be dramatically change - in fact how many of the community will actually see and hear the Turbines going about their everyday lives within this village of ours - a village cocooned within such attractive and established foliage .

The map below does clearly show all the village with established tree foliage, yet  the above image only illustrates the bottom left hand corner of the full village shown below

 Everyone should also read this link - Vernon Coaker MP - Wind Turbines at Stoke

"Burt-n-Joyce" 22/10/10

In order to bring some clarity to the proposals to install Wind Turbines locally and in an attempt to establish a realistic estimate of the affect they may have on the village community, we undertook a “walk around” survey. The survey was to try to make an realistic assessment of the time and %age part of their lives of those families and individuals residing in BJ, who may have visual contact with the proposals (by virtue of their home location and normal activities).

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"Right ! Joyce  coat, hat and boots on we are going for a mystery walk this morning" -- "Oh Burt you are a one - where are we going ?"    " Not telling yer Joyce !"     "Why Burt ? " -- " Because it is  scientific Joyce "  " Oh alright then Burt mums the word"

 The walk went from the Paper Shop on Church Road down towards Main St , up Lambley Lane to the very top and then down again toward the left turn to the Bridal Way and Padleys Lane back to Main St.  - " Nope ! mutters  Burt - not from here"

At the bottom of Padleys Burt-n-Joyce turned left into Main Street, ignored going up Willow Wong, but continued all the way down Main Street to the junction with Shaftbury Ave - " Nope ! mutters  Burt - not from here"

"Burt whats the matter is someone following us ? Yer keep looking back"    " No! Joyce dont fret, it will all become clear soon"    " Nope ! mutters  Burt" - not from here"

Arriiving at Bulcote end of Church Road Burt-n-Joyce crossed the road toward Wellington Road, down into Lee Road and left then back along Gordon Road to Church Road again. " Nope ! mutters  Burt not from here"

" Burt this really is a drag. Can we have rest now ?"   "Not much longer Joyce lets walk back along this side " Burt why is it that you have stopped looking back ?"     " No need to now Joyce"   " Why is that Burt"   " Because what I am looking out for is somewher up ahead Joyce"    "Oh thats nice Burt"  " Nope ! mutters  Burt - not from here"

 "Well here we are Joyce, almost back at the back at the Church and my guess is that the majority of the folk in BJ will not be able to make visual contact from where they live "    "Visual contact with what Burt"  - " The proposed wind turbines at Stoke Bardolph Joyce"     " Oh thats nice Burt"     " Yep! mutters Burt -smiling and not from here either  - but all this wind should certainly help the cause" !

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The location and landscape in which BJ is situated, together with the of tree mass and year round foliage presence assists greatly in the obscuring a visual contact by a majority of the dwellings. It is estimated that approximately only 25% of the community’s homes will have an unfettered visual of the proposed Wind Turbines.

Now if we also consider

1)That generally for 1/3rd of each day we are all resting and asleep.

2)That 26 weeks of the year there is a limit to daylight hours

3)That 8 hours/5 days of most weeks the majority of working residents are employed or away from their homes.

4)That 6 hours/5 days of most weeks children are at school.

5)That the elderly/retired/carers/parents are usually occupied with planned tasks or leisure activities for much of the majority of most days .

Then a more realistic calculation of the time each of us may be “exposed” to any visualisation problems associated with the proposed wind turbines, can be assessed.

The result is quite surprising and relatively easy to calculate - It equates to the conclusion that “going about our everyday activities” the Wind Turbine will only be visible for approx 10% of the time, to approx 25 % of the Village population. ( excluding the motoring to and from Nottingham along Burton Road and the new Bye pass )

Now that does puts the possible situation into perspective. We should this visual contact in the same context as the other undesirables which we have to accept - such as railway traffic and noise, road noise and activities, civilian and military helicopters, private aeroplanes, military jet fighters, passenger jet aircraft ( incoming into EMA) “spewing out spent” aviation fuel into our immediate environment, Electricity pylons, mobile phone masts, fumes refuse etc. We are obliged to accept all of these as an inevitability of our lifestyle, yet accepting the need for renewably energy generation, contributing to the saving of our planet (for our children and their children), easing ice cap melting, and the effect on coastal erosion, ensuring the supply of clean water and nourishing food for the undeveloped nations ( who do not even contribute to carbon emission) are all issues which result from “burying our heads in the sand “, debating, delaying, objecting and refusing to quickly adopt a contribution for remedial action - all too often the result of selfish, short-sighted NIMBY,ism .

Finally! - Yes” we are part of the 25% who will have “visual contact” from our home in BJ

Click this link -Friends of the Earth for even more information

 

RETORT 2

 Retort 2 !!

We at BJO are continually accused by the BJPC of not showing the village in a good light

This has never been true and is not the role of BJO.

At BJO we see our role as introducing a degree of equilibrium into our Village and Community with our postings of - news, views, faces and places - for an “all inclusive, all participating community”

 

We at BJO have lived in the village for approx 40 years (our family ancestry within BJ extends back to 1640 - This is our particular pedigree - our passion and responsibility to this village cannot/nor should it be, consider necessary to be questioned by individuals in positions of administration, simply for the reason, as that of differing of opinions

We need to state at this point that we have read and studied all the available published BJPC minutes from 2000 onwards and quite frankly we are amazed at the general lack of professionalism and progress by successive BJPCs and their Committees

In our view it appears what has been missing in the past and at present, are BJPC Chairmen with strong organisational characteristics, independence of thought, integrity and mindful of the detailed financial and organisational requirements required of a local public service administration - a local public service administration with such a high budget ( supplemented by the Precept charge levied on local residents - an administration, which should be obligated to serving their community - a community with a majority of the more mature and elderly

As a result of ongoing incidents within the present BJPC, (endorsed by the recent resignations of the “BJ Three” - PC Councillors), we began to realise that there was a real and genuine need to report the “below the surface” activities of the past and present BJ village administrations. Hence the creation and development of BJ Online.

We realised, very early in January of this year, even before going online, that BJ Online’s existence was likely to ruffle a few feathers and our policy of “challenge and scrutiny” would not suit everyone. Some in office cannot, nor ever will accept this policy and as a result they quite mischievously refer to this policy as rude and confrontational.. .. Aah well so be it !

BJO is constantly criticised by the BJPC with individual councillors quoting generalities, “here-says“ made by their cahoots, insinuations lacking substance, little and lack of detail when they quote our postings as containing inaccuracies and unsubstantiated suggestions. WHY these accusations , when their own activities and official minutes lack detail and are not adequately explained? Why is it official Council and Committee detail, is all too frequently fuzzed and void of substance and clarity
.? .. We can guess however !

The situation and possible answers are clearly listed and stated in the resignation letters of B, O’Neill, J. O’Neill and Marlene Dixon ( Click this link to view)

Copies of which we had to obtain from the BJPC  by invoking the FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT

All we ask of the BJPC is openness, honesty and PROMPT communication via Public Notice Boards and their ONLINE website (which regretfully is consistently out of date contains many errors, inoperative links and unnecessary propaganda)

Needless to say we will continue with our efforts to introduce equilibrium to our Village and Community with - news, views, faces and places for our “all inclusive, all communitysociety” 

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A RETORT

A Retort

For several months now this project - BJ Online - has been continually criticised ( without apparant substance) in BJPC full Council and Committee minutes - these adverse comments appeared to have begun follow our earlier questioning of BJPC matters/procedures and our legitimate request to view Year End accounts, However we believe it was our request under the “Freedom of Information Act” - for sight of the Resignation letters of the BJ3 - ex Councillors Julie and Brian O’Neill and Marlene Dixon which finally resulted in their recent public postings .

We have allowed a transition period to pass before making our response, however we do make it quite clear that we do NOT include the 3 recently co-opted Councillors as party to the following .

MINUTES OF THE BURTON JOYCE PARISH COUNCIL MEETING 1st September 2009 in the Carnarvon Rooms, 

09/106 Minutes of Meeting Held on 7 July 2009 With a minor amendment to the end time of the open session (09/096),** it was resolved to accept and sign the minutes of the meeting held on the 7th July 2009 as a true record.

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The following is the copy of an E mail dated 27th Sept 09 sent F A O Mr Potter Chairman BJPC

After reading the official BJPC website over several months, we, together with several of our BJO readers are concerned with the content of recent BJPC Minutes and propaganda posting regime within the Website. We therefore request and would be most obliged for a number of clarifications, particularly re -the ongoing administration of the BJPC website.

 

Which are ;

1) The names/position of the individual or individuals who create the content of the BJPC website

2) The name/position of the particular individual within the BJPC ultimately responsible for the content of the BJPC website ( presumably the Chair of the Committee responsible for communication )

3) The name/position of the particular individual within the BJPC ultimately accountable for the total presentation and content of the BJPC website ( presumably the Chair of the BJPC)

We are also most concerned with the following BJPC minutes which have been published ONLINE. These particular minutes appear to be generalised in content, lacking specific substance (dates and individual attribution etc ) with inadequate overall clarity and with excessive and unjustified bias against BJO

We quote; Finance and General Purposes Committee-Held at the Parish Office on the 30th June 2009

“It was recommended that a proposal to introduce additional information/links to the Parish Council website be supported. With regard to Burton Joyce On-Line, as it is not possible to monitor the frequency of their postings, the inaccuracies and unsubstantiated claims contained therein it is recommended that there should be a withdrawal of any reciprocal links and a reversal of permission to reproduce any material from the Parish Council’s Website”

***** With particular ref to “with regard to Burton Joyce On-Line, as it is not possible to monitor the frequency of their postings, the inaccuracies and unsubstantiated claims contained.”

“as it not possible to monitor the frequency of postings“? It is preposterous and presumptuous for the minutes to include “the inaccuracies and instantiated claims therein” *******

We at BJO therefore request that the BJPC produces specific examples of incidents within these posted minutes .. .. ..

Also

MINUTES OF THE BURTON JOYCE PARISH COUNCIL MEETING

*************Held Tuesday 7th July 2009 ************

i) It was felt The Parish Council felt the originally expressed intention of creating an un-biased community based forum designed to inform residents of news and events had not been met.

ii) The Parish Council had been made aware that a number of clubs associated with the Poplars Sports Ground had been seriously distressed by the views expressed on the site.

iii) that the website contained a high volume of inaccurate, speculative and potentially defamatory comments and the Parish Council did not wish to be associated with these or in any way be held responsible for them

iv) It was felt that the site portrayed Burton Joyce in a consistently negative way and recent images and articles did not reflect a balanced view

 

“BJO finds it quite disturbing that the BJPC consider themselves equipped to be “Judge and Jury”, issuing a dictum together with comments and decisions based upon non-specific generalities, presumably stated, claimed and propose/ seconded by “un-named” Councillors - accepted in Committee and full Council Meetings without any note in the minutes of the resulting voting - “majority” or “unanimous” Council decision “

 

We should remind the BJPC that the BJ Community apparently does not share this judgement of the BJPC - This is confirmed by the fact

a) BJO has consistently achieved high level of popularity within the community, confirmed by independent statistics available thro’ GOOGLE - which clearly show that over last 6 months that BJO has achieved 50,000+ page visitor viewings, with each individual site visit lasting 6+minutes in duration.

b) BJO regularly attracts high numbers of visitors with a major proportion of these being return visitors.

c) The BJO Online “Gossip” and “Forum” Sections have consistently maintained 2nd and 3rd place in rankings of popularity the “Home Page” ( landing page) being number 1

We at BJO respectfully request the information substantiating the above BJPC minutes i), ii ), iii) & iv)

PLEASE NOTE - BJO have always maintained that the content posted within its website is based upon the genuine belief and understanding that it is correct at the time of posting. However if any individual postings ( or parts ) are proven to be inaccurate, then BJO we will always unreservedly and INSTANTLY apologise, together with posting a full retraction .

We trust that a copy of this e mail will be permanently added to ongoing BJPC records

Respectfully - BJO Admin

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We await the Chairman’s official response which we will post within this website

We should also add that we are always willing to have a “face to face” with the BJPC Chairman to discuss any issue in an attempt to gain mutual understanding and resolve differences

 


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